Important things are left unsaid. The counselor could help guide your discussions so that the important things DO get said, and you actually start to deal with them. Are you too jealous? Maybe it is. In this book she talkes about infidelity and emotional affairs. Reading the book might give you some perspective on your situation, too.
My husband and I have been married for 31 years. Six years ago we lost our oldest daughter at the age of My husband was very good friends with the owner of his company, like brothers they would say. The man died suddenly a couple of months ago. Now my husband works for the wife. I have recently found that they are constantly on the phone. He would drive around in his truck all hours of the night for hours talking to her. He came home late one night and told me he had to help her son fix something at her house. He came home and told me that he left a tool in his truck that her son needed and had to turn around half way home and take it back.
And that was a lie, he drove around and talked to her which he admitted to. He sees nothing wrong with this because they are talking about his friend and her dead husband. I am now starting to suffer physical effects of the stress I am going through. He wants me to have the house and he will pay the bills. I feel he wants his cake and eat it too. At what point do I leave and start taking care of me??? Everything I have read said that it is hard for marriage to come back from this. He has made it clear he has no interest in a marriage counselling.
Thank you for any help. My condolences on teh death of your daughter. I can only imagine how hard that is. But when do you start taking care of yourself? That starts now. First, with all due respect, you need help. But, in the long run, is that something you care about? Or, is what you really care about whether YOUR marriage can come back from this?
Probably the latter. But your first decision is whether you want it to. Then, after you decide that, you can start to figure out what you want to do. Finally, I know this is hard. All you can do is work on you. So, for now, focus on that. Focus on getting yourself into a better place emotionally. Your blog is very informative and helps me identify that my wife is having an emotional and basically a sexual affair. My wife and I have been together for 3 years, two years in a relationship and coming up on our one year wedding anniversary.
When we got together I knew that she was bisexual and I came to terms with that later in the relationship. Recently she has made a new friend, my wife is quite the social butterfly and I admire that about her. However this new friend is more than just a friend, my wife and I have argued and I essentially had to force it out of her to get her to admit that she is fantasizing about women and that she wants to have sex with this new friend. I feel betrayed because she lied to me about it saying that it was purely platonic so I confront her and she attacks me.
What you are feeling has little to do with sex, and a lot to do with trust, and the boundaries you want to draw in your marriage. The problem is not that your wife is bisexual. The problem is that she wants to ACT on that bisexuality and have sex with someone else while she is still married to you. The problem is also that there is a growing emotional bond between your wife and this other woman.
THAT is what seems to be bothering you the most. I have no idea what your deal was with your wife when you married her. What are the rules in your marriage? What are the boundaries? What do you both want to do while you are married — both with each other and with other people? Is it okay for one of you to fall in love with another person? THAT is probably the real issue. Hi Karen, I run over your blog and found it comforting knowing that alot of people wives specifically go through this phase. I have been married for 18 years with a six year old lovely daughter. Our marriage was based on unconditional love and sacrifices.
The ups and downs we passed made our relationship stronger than ever until just few month ago i realized him being too comfortable talking to a female colleague. I would often hear them conversing via phonecalls. I didnt pay much attention at first, but when i noticed that the lady and my husband was talking like they are the closest of friends i warned my husband to be cautious.
I told my husband that their openness could lead to a different level. I told my husband that his being nice might give a wrong signal to her colleague. Though nothing intimate, the lady would often message him and call him out of working hours to discuss her day at work or non sense things like ahe cant find her wallet And etc. My husbands call register would also show an almost 15 min of conversation. Just a month ago i cried so hard to my husband and told him how its affecting me as a wife.
We had a heated argument but eventually settled it by going through an agreement that all communications between him and the lady would be visible. Until i found out that he dropped the lady work related accdg to him to her home and just a few days ago i discovered him deleting phonecall registers and messages deleted. When i confronted him, he told me he did so to protect me from not fussing over him and the lady again and that i am his wife and there is nothing between him and the lady and he loves me… i asked him why he broke our agreement to keep their convos open to me and if he had shown me the messages and qould have told me that she was texting a non related issue then i would have known what to advice him..
I love my husband so much and is so scared of lossing him. I asked him if he wants to end our marriage but he answered me no and that he wants to be with me until were old and gray.. Pls advice karen much thanks—. Oh my. I can hear how torn up you are about all this.
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All you can decide is what you want to do about it. I know. YOU are not the one carrying on with someone else. But hear me out. So, if you can, be brutally honest with yourself: was your marriage lacking in any area? Have you changed physically? I hate to sound sexist, but biologically speaking, men are very visual. Have you gotten too comfortable with the way you look over the years?
I have no idea! But what I am saying is that, if you start working on yourself and improving yourself, in whatever way you see fit, you might be surprised at the result. If you start focusing on being happier independently of your husband, you will start to feel better. When you start to feel better and stronger, you will change.
When you change, your marriage will change. The only chance you have of making your marriage change is by changing yourself. Kept quiet and just cried myself to bed. I did not talk to my husband for 3 days and he slept in the couch in our receiving room. I also snatched his mobile phone and did my data gathering; using his phone and dowloaded all relevant files. Armed with info and upon the urging of my elder son to settle things with my husband and forgive him and give him another chance, we had a serious talk and agreed to reconcile — on my terms.
I think the song Greatest Love of All says it — learning to love yourself is the greatest love of all. If you allow others to disrespect you, how can you respect yourself and give the same respect to others? I wish you and your hubby well but… it seems he is not doing his part to preserve a marriage based on honesty. Will you endure a one way relationship? For how long? Ada, I have been exactly where you are. My husband had an Emotional Affair with a female work college and it all started with her phoning him and talking for 2 hours at a time.
When I complained he said I was Jealous and insecure and had too much time on my hands. We have been married for 35 years and this other woman was 12 years younger than him. Apparently he told her that I had complained about her phoning him and she told him I was being silly. Well nothing is wrong with having friends if you in a stable relationship. But when your unhappy in your relationship and your complaining to my my husband about your partner not meeting your needs. And your telling my partner that he deserves better, there becomes a problem.
I got sick of trying to get him to listen to me, so I rang her. Big mistake. I should have rang her partner and told him what was going on. Long story short. She leaves her man. Hooks up with another man, runs away with him to start a new life. My husband of course. She has lost everything and looks at my husband like he can save me. He can keep me. He starts hiding his phone and acting very strange and is disconnecting from me. I later find out the txting was starting at 3am every day and ending when he got home from work. And he was deleting everything. I persist and out it comes.
She is back! I am in love with her! Were sole mates! I said Ok. I want you to go and be happy. I said, If you think she can make you happy then I want you to go and be happy. He then tried to blame me for what he had done. I think he was hoping that if he treated me badly enough I would just leave and he could move her in to our home. I raised our kids in this house. No way was I letting her move into my home. But thats the nature of an Emotional affair. He went off to work the next morning telling me he was thinking he would move out in a few weeks.
He then rang her and ended it. I think me standing my ground, made him wake up from his affair fog and realise what he was about to loose. Her past history was like one train wreak after another. Anyway that was 18months ago. There has been no contact with her but I still keep a very close eye on things. You become like a detective. Maybe one day I will regain that unconditional trust that I once had for him. It still hurts like hell. But it dose get better. You nailed it, Karen!
All your observations on how an emo relationship starts and develops up to the time a husband thinks he is not at fault is so very true.
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It happened to me and my husband 58 yo after more than 3 decades of marriage. The group got reconnected because of a HS reunion — the other woman did not attend bec she is based abroad. But I am a smart girl, an empowered one. I was able to download all their chat messages for 2 months and threatened to expose them to their families, relatives, superiors, and church leaders. My husband begged to be forgiven and vowed never to get in touch with her and her friends again, online or face-to-face, and he did. I got in touch with the aging woman 58 yo, married thrice but separated with 2 children out of wedlock online and sent her back all the indecent pictures and emails she sent to my husband with whom she is head over heels with.
It was just playing around. Now, my husband grants every wish I have and promised never to do it again until his last breath. I think he learned his lesson the hard way. I have forgiven him but I have not forgotten his moral lapse. But it was a very painful experience for me. I did not realize I have that capacity to fight back. Indeed, hell hath no fury like woman scorned. I also learned to forgive. Through the many online literature I read, I learned that forgiving does not mean excusing or forgetting what happened but actually learning how to manage your emotions so that you can move on to more productive things.
I truly and sincerely believe that my husband is a changed man because I saw him suffer emotionally because of embarassment from his children. I was amazed to read your blog and find out I was not crazy. My husband passed away when we had been married 39 and a half years.
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He died from injuries he receive when our home caught fire and was totally destroyed. Two years before the fire he took a job to supplement his retirement income. Almost from day one he came home talking about Pat. At first it was not very flattering. He made remarks about her not being good looking and very know it all.
Within the first couple months that changed. As soon as he would get home he would start telling about all the funny and informative things she said. Then a switch went off in my head and I wondered if anything was going on. One night we were going to dinner and he made a strange turn and I asked what was going on. He said he had told Pat where we were going and she wanted to go too.
I said hell no and he got mad and headed home. Another time he said that one of the other guys said they should get a room. When ask why that was said he said they were just talking quietly together. Finally when he would not stop talking about her I screamed that was enough.
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I did not want to hear her name again. He said I was jealous and he had no idea why. He became move separate from me. When I would enter a room he would leave. Long story short things got worse and I said I had had enough. I planned on taking my life.
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After a very bad weekend I found her name and phone number in his notebook. I blew up. She happen to call his phone when he had forgotten it on the kitchen table. She hung up when I answered. I called right back. She did not answer so I left a message. Very plain that I was not happy. I did not mention it that night. The next day I asked him if she had mentioned my message. He said yes and she had cried all night. Needless to say that weekend was terrible. Finally he agreed to have nothing to do with her again and that her had never even held her hand.
He wanted me to see the doctor and if I did he would never speak to her again. Things went back and forth until the weekend of the fire. We went camping and he was very distant. I asked if he was that way because he wanted to be with Pat again and he said maybe. Half an hour later the garage blew up when he opened the door. He was still conscious in the ambulance but by the time the doctor got done with me they had put him in a coma that he never came out of.
Six weeks I sat by his bed hoping one of the ten surgeries would create a situation where they could wake him up. It never happen and he got worse daily. I finally decided it was time to take him off life support. I never got to say good bye. But even worse I feel we never settled our differences. He was my soul mate for over 39 years and I feel that I will never be able to find out if he was still in love with just me.
I hope anyone who reads this will not leave things unsettled. Tomorrow may not come.
They rarely talk or see one another as she lives about miles away. He also told me his old girlfriend found some of their texts and went crazy and demanded they stop. He agreed, then went out and bought a secret cellphone. I remember be conflicted about this because on the one hand he told me about her but gotta say my gut just kinda tensed at his dishonesty with the secret phone. Initially he would answer her calls even if I was around and they would chat maybe minutes. She usually would carry on about horrible her boyfriend was to her and so forth.
He would console her, tell her she deserved better. My gut gave me no reason to worry… and I have known the code to his phone almost from day one. About a year into our relationship he showed me a text she sent him. We are just friends!! Well, he really said nothing, just kind of shrugged his shoulders and said she was fine… And my gut still did not give off any bells or whistles… So fast forward to the end of June Is everything alright?
There was one phone conversation between them that lasted for one hour and 45 minutes….!!! Usually they were around 45 — 50 minutes…. You are my best friend in the whole world!! I finally had to ask him about a week later if he had spoken with her. I told him I will NOT share my man physically or emtionally…. And yet, here I am…. Is the affair just emotional and nothing more?
Who knows? What I DO know is that what he is or is not doing is not the only issue here. So now the only question is: what are you going to do about it? Can you trust him even if he does? You said that in your youth you would have stood up for yourself. You do! The ONLY person you can control is yourself. So you might get farther trying to figure out why YOU are willing to settle for this kind of a relationship rather than spending your time trying to figure out what HE is doing.
PS: Working with a good therapist might help a lot. My husband and I have been married for 6 years but have known each other for 13 years. My 2nd marriage and his 3rd. We were very close friends before starting our relationship. I have never been happier. We were best friends and we never fight.
We are able to talk on the phone all the time because he is a local truck driver. A few days ago I caught a glimpse of his pictures in his phone while he was sending his buddy a text. I waited till he was in the shower the next morning and looked on his phone to confirm what I thought I saw. Sure enough, he had 2 pictures of a woman that he had taken recently. She was fully clothed and you could tell that she was at work. I was crushed.
I confronted him right away without thinking. He said it was innocent and she was just a friend. I called him a liar and he left for work. I figured out that she works at the truck wash that he goes to at least once a week. He also parks his truck next door. Sometimes calling 2 or 3 times a day. The conversations are usually less than 5 minutes at a time but sometimes they have lasted for about 45 minutes or so.
He calls her alot when he first leaves the house in the morning but thats not the only times. We have talked and he maintains that they are just friends and he gets a kick out of talking to her. When I said that I was going to go talk to her, he got really angry and defensive. That is the only time I have seen any emotion out of him during this whole situation.
Even when I was crying, he just ignored me. I do just about anything he asks and I tell him everything. I had complete trust and faith in him. I feel stuck and alone. Thank you. But the fact that he will still see her is harder. He did something and hid it from you. If he really thought there was no problem with what he ws doing, why did he hide it?
Why did he get defensive when you said you were going to go talk to her? Why does he have pictures of her body parts on his phone? Now, whether your husband is willing to change and put all this behind him forever, who knows? But unless and until you can rebuild your trust in him and in your relationship, you will suffer and the relationship will not grow. Unless and until he understands the effect that his behavior had on you, he is not likely to change it. The good news is that, if you do it, you can absolutely put your marriage back on the right track.
I believe my wife is having an affair. She is on meetme type apps reaching out to anyone and everyone who is willing to talk to her. She is doing things in secret, leaves the house for hours and does not tell anyone where she is going. One time I followed her to a hotel and when i confronted her she had a possible legitamit reason why she went there for 2 hours. Her interest in me is lost. She wants space and unconditional freedom to see who she wants and do what she wants, even though she knows I am against it.
A friend said I should kick her out so she can figure it out, do i have the right to do that? Should I let this play out? Or start the pursuit of divorce? It hurts so bad. To get an answer to that you need to consult with a good divorce attorney in your area. What I can tell you is that gettinga good therapist for yourself right now can help you sort out your emotions so that you can move forward in your life.
Hi Karen, Thank you for exposing the real pain of emotional affairs. I never knew he had a female co-worker, in the same position, and who is his exact age. I never heard a word about her, until about 7 months after he started working there. We even go to the same OB. Until one day, it just hit me. Something just clicked in my heart, and I felt so betrayed. I confronted him, he denied any feelings at all, and I told him I want to enjoy my pregnancy, like he should, and stop thinking about hers.
Then randomly, I thought to ask him if he has her phone number. He did. He said she gave him her number, and he texted her to give him hers. I asked to see those text messages, so a day or so later my husband gave me his phone. Conveniently, those dates of texts are deleted. I know with his phone, he has to delete messages to get new ones.
But during that exact time frame? So anyways, now, 5 months into our pregnancies, my husband tells me she still will approach him and start to talk about her pregnancy, and he says he will just give her one word answers or walk away. I feel depressed, because in the beginning of my pregnancy, all he could talk about or think about was hers.
Do you think my husband began to get too close to her? I feel like my feelings for my husband have changed since this. I never worried about him cheating on me, I never thought I had to. Now I find myself doubting everything about him and our relationship. I wish I could just enjoy my pregnancy. Heck, me and this coworker will probably be giving birth at the hospital at the same time.
This is so hard for me, especially right now. Please help. Thank you for your thoughts! Are your fears well-founded? A marriage counselor can help you with all that. Sadly, by all accounts and based on your narrative itself, it is the end of the road for you and your partner. You may not want to share your man with another woman but your man willingly and knowingly shared himself with this other woman.
Am sorry to say this, but, until when are you willing to suffer? Let him go. He is already madly in love with the other woman. A couple of months ago I walked into the garage and he quickly clicked off of something and when I confronted him and asked him for his phone he quickly cleared something out. Fast forward to 2 weeks ago, he was traveling and making his way back on Friday.
I knew he was going to drive a couple of hours and stop for the night then make his way the next day to visit some old high school friends and see a show. Ever since then i have been so happy and couldnt believe it would happen. He also helped me with success spell, I have been living happily with my lover now and will be getting married soon. Here is his email address grantingheartdesiresspell gmail. For me, it is not "ok" to veer off the straight and narrow in a relationship.
I am not a jealous man, but I will not accept my partner rupturing our trust, and I will not consider cheating her in a manner I find so cowardly. If you choose to begin a relationship with another person, no matter how serious the relationship is, unless specifically stated or agreed upon that the nature of the relationship remains open, you have exchanged your trust, your word that you will not seek out sexual or emotional pleasure of anyone but her. If the relationship does not bring you happiness, end it. If you still love the person, but no longer are satisfied or for some other reason cannot have your desires fulfilled by your partner, then you must end it or talk through it.
There is no gray area worthy of consideration, there is no maybe. The choices may be difficult, but the value of your word, your integrity, the meaning you instill on love itself, they are all at the mercy of the way you handle relationships. If you cannot stay true in your relationships, then I would not trust you for any other purpose in life. This is my opinion. I have to say that you've expressed my own personal views on this subject much better than I could have done. This is ancient but man, I couldn't agree more with you.
Pisses me off that some people can justify it with some kind of idiotic reasoning, pulled from the depths of their air-filled skulls. I like to think of a relationship as contract formed by the couple, there's no excuse for breaking it as the rules are clearly laid out there. It's driven by arrogance, superiority, and entitlement. Of all the available options honest conversation with their spouse about what is perceived as lacking in their spouse or marriage; professional counseling Infidelity is about poor character as the choice to cheat involves lies, manipulation, sneakiness, deception, disloyalty, disrespect, disregard and is often hidden behind a facade of 'good man', 'good husband', 'good family man', when nothing could be further from the TRUTH.
It's narcissistic; hedonistic; and a display of zero empathy for those who WILL be negatively effected by it.
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I am not a psychologist, but I am well read on the subject of infidelity and betrayal. Why didn't his faithful spouse cheat? Was it because the cheater spouse was oh so satisfying, fulfilling, and awesome? It was because the faithful spouse has an intact moral compass and character. There may be thousand reasons for people to cheat. However, to save a marriage is everyone's responsibility unless you have a valid reason.
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Talk to them about their suspicions. That resentment can also linger and fester, so you want to address this head-on. Promise to make an effort to work on those trust issues. A good partner will feel bad about making them worry, so assure them that even though they have nothing to worry about, you will make an effort to be more attentive to them.
Change some of your suspicious behaviour. If you let your partner speak honestly, they may have given you a list of specific concerns they have about your behaviour. If you change that behaviour without warning, it may only make them even more suspicious. However, if you have an open conversation with them about how you promise to change those behaviours, they will interpret your changed behaviours as dedication to working on your relationship.
Stop the affair or put it on hold. If your partner is too on-target with their suspicions, it may be time to call off the affair, or at least put it on hold until the danger passes. Include your email address to get a message when this question is answered. Already answered Not a question Bad question Other. Tips In the end, the best way to not get caught is to not cheat in the first place. Keeping that in mind, you may be better off choosing a lifestyle of casual sex without relationships, or maybe an open relationship if you can figure out how to be honest.
Warnings Cheating on your partner might be emotionally devastating for them if you get caught. Odds are, you don't actually dislike your partner. Out of consideration for them, you should end the relationship if you're unhappy in it, rather than cheating on them. Infidelity often results in broken relationships. If you want to stay with this person, don't cheat on them. The repercussions of your cheating might follow your partner into future relationships.
Don't shatter their ability to trust. It's easier to get over a breakup than a betrayal. Even if you stay together after you're caught cheating, you will have to do a lot of work to rebuild trust. The relationship may never be the same. Edit Related wikiHows. Academic Search Complete. Article Summary X Regardless of whether or not you get caught, cheating is a huge breach of trust in a relationship, and if you are thinking about betraying your partner, first consider leaving the relationship instead of hurting them. Did this summary help you?